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TheRhineFrontier@aol.com  
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(2 users)  More options Feb 12 2008, 9:06 pm
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From: "TheRhineFront...@aol.com" <TheRhineFront...@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:06:22 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Feb 12 2008 9:06 pm
Subject: Does anyone know what Obama stands for? Besides change...LOL
He wants change so did Stalin! It is amazing millions of Americans are
voting for a guy whose views are invisible. Obama is the master of
speaking for hours and saying nothing.

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cmdr buzz corey  
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(1 user)  More options Feb 12 2008, 9:59 pm
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From: cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-buzz-co...@mailcity.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:59:12 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Feb 12 2008 9:59 pm
Subject: Re: Does anyone know what Obama stands for? Besides change...LOL
On Feb 12, 8:06 pm, "TheRhineFront...@aol.com"

<TheRhineFront...@aol.com> wrote:
> He wants change so did Stalin! It is amazing millions of Americans are
> voting for a guy whose views are invisible. Obama is the master of
> speaking for hours and saying nothing.

And for all his time in the Senate he hasn't accomplished a single
thing. Just ask his groupie following to name his accomplishments as a
Senator and they can't name a thing.

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richardhut...@gmail.com  
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(1 user)  More options Feb 12 2008, 10:13 pm
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From: richardhut...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:13:36 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Feb 12 2008 10:13 pm
Subject: Re: Does anyone know what Obama stands for? Besides change...LOL
On Feb 12, 10:59 pm, cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-buzz-co...@mailcity.com>
wrote:

> On Feb 12, 8:06 pm, "TheRhineFront...@aol.com"

> <TheRhineFront...@aol.com> wrote:
> > He wants change so did Stalin! It is amazing millions of Americans are
> > voting for a guy whose views are invisible. Obama is the master of
> > speaking for hours and saying nothing.

> And for all his time in the Senate he hasn't accomplished a single
> thing. Just ask his groupie following to name his accomplishments as a
> Senator and they can't name a thing.

What has Hillary accomplished?

If record and accomplishments, and experience matters, then Richardson
will still be competing.

- Rich


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NewFrontier07  
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(3 users)  More options Feb 12 2008, 10:27 pm
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From: NewFrontier07 <TheRhineFront...@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:27:02 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Feb 12 2008 10:27 pm
Subject: Re: Does anyone know what Obama stands for? Besides change...LOL
On Feb 12, 7:59 pm, cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-buzz-co...@mailcity.com>
wrote:

> On Feb 12, 8:06 pm, "TheRhineFront...@aol.com"

> <TheRhineFront...@aol.com> wrote:
> > He wants change so did Stalin! It is amazing millions of Americans are
> > voting for a guy whose views are invisible. Obama is the master of
> > speaking for hours and saying nothing.

> And for all his time in the Senate he hasn't accomplished a single
> thing. Just ask his groupie following to name his accomplishments as a
> Senator and they can't name a thing.

___________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________
Every Obama speech is the same a host of bullshit generalities and
slogans without an ounce of detail. I think the press is afraid to
call him on his bullshit for fear they will be called racist.

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Ronald 'More-More' Moshki  
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(2 users)  More options Feb 12 2008, 10:31 pm
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From: "Ronald 'More-More' Moshki" <sector_f...@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:31:49 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Feb 12 2008 10:31 pm
Subject: Re: Does anyone know what Obama stands for? Besides change...LOL
On Feb 12, 11:27 pm, NewFrontier07 <TheRhineFront...@aol.com> wrote:

A politician speaking but saying nothing--who woulda knowed?

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Wyle Coyote  
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(1 user)  More options Feb 12 2008, 10:34 pm
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From: Wyle Coyote <wylecoy...@post.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:34:25 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Feb 12 2008 10:34 pm
Subject: Re: Does anyone know what Obama stands for? Besides change...LOL
On Feb 12, 7:59 pm, cmdr buzz corey <cmdr-buzz-co...@mailcity.com>
wrote:

> On Feb 12, 8:06 pm, "TheRhineFront...@aol.com"

> <TheRhineFront...@aol.com> wrote:
> > He wants change so did Stalin! It is amazing millions of Americans are
> > voting for a guy whose views are invisible. Obama is the master of
> > speaking for hours and saying nothing.

> And for all his time in the Senate he hasn't accomplished a single
> thing. Just ask his groupie following to name his accomplishments as a
> Senator and they can't name a thing.

But that's still more than Bush has done in his 8 years in the
Presidency.

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TheRhineFrontier@aol.com  
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From: "TheRhineFront...@aol.com" <TheRhineFront...@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:13:54 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Feb 12 2008 11:13 pm
Subject: Re: Does anyone know what Obama stands for? Besides change...LOL
Obama refuse any an all interviews except with Opra. Now that is real
courage, a man who can stand up to Islamic terrorists. He needs to
stop hiding like a little baby and face some real questions.
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galathaea  
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(1 user)  More options Feb 12 2008, 11:17 pm
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From: galathaea <galath...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:17:25 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Feb 12 2008 11:17 pm
Subject: Re: Does anyone know what Obama stands for? Besides change...LOL
On Feb 12, 7:06 pm, "TheRhineFront...@aol.com"

<TheRhineFront...@aol.com> wrote:
> He wants change so did Stalin! It is amazing millions of Americans are
> voting for a guy whose views are invisible. Obama is the master of
> speaking for hours and saying nothing.

his views are quite visible

to start
  if you are truly interested in his positions
you should look at his policy overview

http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf

but he goes furthur
  giving many detailed position papers
  (links given in the document)

this is in stark contrast to the other candidates
  whose policy statements consist mostly of platitudes
  and fit on brief web page summaries

you can also learn from the candidates initiatives

well
  at least obama had a number of initiatives
  he helped develop during his term

the other candidates cosponsored other's initiatives
  but didn't seem to have any burning desire for their own

coburn-obama
  specifically looking to bring transparency to government
  by publishing transactions on the internet
is a great example of obama's policy positions
which tend to be very targeted and fiscally responsible

he seems to be drawing wide policy support
  both from the antiwar crowd
    who despise the human rights violations of our aggressions
  and the fiscal conservatives
    who see the war as a waste of government funds

besides his detailed and principled positions
  which tend to draw those who study policy
he also has a natural charisma and great oration
  drawing in those looking for something more ephemeral

so far
  he has only gained in approval
the more people learn of him and his positions

there does seem to be a few who have tried to plant this
  "he has no substance"
virus around
but it always ends up looking very comical
  since they can never really point to substance
  from any of the other candidates
but there is plenty to show of obama's

i'm sure this has something to do
  with why he is winning

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Benny Benson  
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From: benn...@yahoo.com (Benny Benson)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:41:50 GMT
Local: Tues, Feb 12 2008 11:41 pm
Subject: Re: Does anyone know what Obama stands for? Besides change...LOL
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:06:22 -0800 (PST), "TheRhineFront...@aol.com"

<TheRhineFront...@aol.com> wrote:
>He wants change so did Stalin! It is amazing millions of Americans are
>voting for a guy whose views are invisible. Obama is the master of
>speaking for hours and saying nothing.

Pot ... meet kettle.

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pinky  
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From: pinky <pinknebul...@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:09:21 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Feb 13 2008 12:09 am
Subject: Re: Does anyone know what Obama stands for? Besides change...LOL
On Feb 12, 11:34 pm, Wyle Coyote <wylecoy...@post.com> wrote:

Which isn't saying much.

pink


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