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Dick Waterman  
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 More options Sep 6, 1:15 pm
Newsgroups: alt.sports.baseball.ny-yankees
From: Dick Waterman <Jinxbl...@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 12:15:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: A night game in Tampa and then Seattle the next night?
What kind of crazy scheduling makes a team play a night game in Tampa
and then take a charter flight across the country to play in Seattle
the next night? No wonder they looked flat and exhausted because they
WERE flat and exhausted. They probably reached their Seattle hotel for
a few hours of sleep when people who going off to work there.

I blame the Yankee's player rep who should have taken the matter to
the union with a complaint. I also blame Cashman for not speaking up
that this was unfair and put his team at a disadvantage.

At the very least, it was a gesture to help Tampa with their mediocre
attendance because an afternoon game would have drawn fewer fans than
another night game.


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X rated Vermonter  
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 More options Sep 6, 2:05 pm
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From: X rated Vermonter <k1xvnos...@arrl.net>
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:05:47 -0400
Local: Sat, Sep 6 2008 2:05 pm
Subject: Re: A night game in Tampa and then Seattle the next night?
On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 12:15:00 -0700 (PDT), Dick Waterman

<Jinxbl...@aol.com> wrote:
>What kind of crazy scheduling makes a team play a night game in Tampa
>and then take a charter flight across the country to play in Seattle
>the next night? No wonder they looked flat and exhausted because they
>WERE flat and exhausted. They probably reached their Seattle hotel for
>a few hours of sleep when people who going off to work there.

>I blame the Yankee's player rep who should have taken the matter to
>the union with a complaint. I also blame Cashman for not speaking up
>that this was unfair and put his team at a disadvantage.

>At the very least, it was a gesture to help Tampa with their mediocre
>attendance because an afternoon game would have drawn fewer fans than
>another night game.

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I seem to recall that there has been a long standing feud between the
Yankees and Rays over scheduling of games, particularly on getaway day
games at the end of series.  The Rays often schedule night games on a
mid-week getaway game.

And I recall, about 4 years ago, the then Devil Rays had to travel
from Florida to New York for a series, but a hurricane was hitting the
Tampa area, and they could not get out.   Cashman wanted the league to
declare a forfeited game.


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luxor127...@gmail.com  
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 More options Sep 6, 4:44 pm
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From: luxor127...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 15:44:51 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Sep 6 2008 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: A night game in Tampa and then Seattle the next night?
On Sep 6, 1:05 pm, X rated Vermonter <k1xvnos...@arrl.net> wrote:

Get your facts straight, stupid.  It wasn't Cashman.  It was Randy
Levine who has no business being President of the Yankees anyway.  In
any case, it has nothing to do with what the OP posted.

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Magnus, Robot Fighter  
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 More options Sep 6, 6:53 pm
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From: "Magnus, Robot Fighter" <M...@Key.com>
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:53:31 -0500
Local: Sat, Sep 6 2008 6:53 pm
Subject: Re: A night game in Tampa and then Seattle the next night?
On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 12:15:00 -0700 (PDT), Dick Waterman

<Jinxbl...@aol.com> wrote:
>What kind of crazy scheduling makes a team play a night game in Tampa
>and then take a charter flight across the country to play in Seattle
>the next night?

The same nimrods that have a team play two real games in Japan....some
exhibition games in LA...then real games in Toronto.

It's the real-exhibition-real thing that's wonky.


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X rated Vermonter  
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 More options Sep 6, 7:03 pm
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From: X rated Vermonter <k1xvnos...@arrl.net>
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:03:54 -0400
Local: Sat, Sep 6 2008 7:03 pm
Subject: Re: A night game in Tampa and then Seattle the next night?

On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 15:44:51 -0700 (PDT), luxor127...@gmail.com wrote:
>Get your facts straight, stupid.  It wasn't Cashman.  It was Randy
>Levine who has no business being President of the Yankees anyway.  In
>any case, it has nothing to do with what the OP posted.

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Hey Bozo Boy, this one is for you.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=morgan_joe&id=1...

Forfeit Follies
I was supposed to broadcast the New York Yankees-Tampa Bay Devil Rays
game scheduled for Monday afternoon that caused a controversy this
week.

I traveled to New York on Monday after my Sunday night game in
Cleveland and was originally told that the doubleheader between the
Yankees and Devil Rays would be at 1 p.m. When I arrived in New York I
learned that the doubleheader would start at 3 p.m. instead. Then,
when I got to the ballpark, I was told that the Devil Rays hadn't even
left Tampa yet.

I heard sound bites from the Yankees, including GM Brian Cashman, who
said that the Devil Rays should have departed for New York on Friday
and should forfeit the game. Since then, MLB rescheduled the missed
game for Wednesday (making for a doubleheader), and the Yankees have
dropped their forfeit request.

Normally, a rule is cut-and-dry, and the Devil Rays would have to
forfeit the game. The Yankees technically have a case, but since
Hurricane Frances is clearly an extenuating circumstance, I don't see
how they could ask for a forfeit. The hurricane was bombarding
Florida, and Devil Rays players have families and friends and homes
there.


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luxor127...@gmail.com  
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 More options Sep 6, 9:04 pm
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From: luxor127...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 20:04:09 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Sep 6 2008 9:04 pm
Subject: Re: A night game in Tampa and then Seattle the next night?
On Sep 6, 6:03 pm, X rated Vermonter <k1xvnos...@arrl.net> wrote:

I stand corrected.  In fact, Cashman should have been fined $100,000
by David Wells for "tarnishing the Yankees' image."
Joe Morgan would not be someone I would use as a source to prove
anything but I'll acknowledge that both Cashman and Levine were idiots
and disgraced the Yankees in that affair.

In fact, Cashman should have been fined $100,000 by David Wells for
"tarnishing the Yankees' image."


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ho...@boardermail.com  
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 More options Sep 7, 5:56 pm
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From: ho...@boardermail.com
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 16:56:38 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Sep 7 2008 5:56 pm
Subject: Re: A night game in Tampa and then Seattle the next night?
On Sep 6, 3:15 pm, Dick Waterman <Jinxbl...@aol.com> wrote:

> What kind of crazy scheduling makes a team play a night game in Tampa
> and then take a charter flight across the country to play in Seattle
> the next night? No wonder they looked flat and exhausted because they
> WERE flat and exhausted. They probably reached their Seattle hotel for
> a few hours of sleep when people who going off to work there.

> I blame the Yankee's player rep who should have taken the matter to
> the union with a complaint. I also blame Cashman for not speaking up
> that this was unfair and put his team at a disadvantage.

> At the very least, it was a gesture to help Tampa with their mediocre
> attendance because an afternoon game would have drawn fewer fans than
> another night game.

What is even more outrageous is that when a typical loss results in
1/2 game loss in the standings, the league made it so this loss caused
the Yankees to drop 11 1/2 out of the standings!  Where is the
justice?

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