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pamela  
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 More options Mar 11, 12:18 pm
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet.low-carb
From: pamela <bicycleguy...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:18:13 -0600
Local: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 12:18 pm
Subject: New Fat Bashing - "A Taste For Fat"
I pretty much like the taste of fats and oils, although sugar still has
an appeal - and chocolate.
Counter to the results cited in this report, I lost my weight eating
MORE FAT.

This paper seems to be trying to verify or utilize the hypothesis that
it is the high calorie content of fat responsible for obesity.  Oh,
researchers locked into the thinking of the 1950's over 50 years later.

The fast food industry has long known and used the taste appeal of fats
and sugars, and particularly the combination of fats and sugars
together. Like Ice Cream. This is one of the themes of "the End of
Overeating" by David Kessler, MD former Commissioner of the US FDA.

I suppose these "scientific researchers" don't read popular books at
all, and probably nothing much which disputes cherished traditions
against fat.

They claim to have verified that there is a separate taste for "fat". Us
common folks have known that fat tastes pretty good for a long time, but
didn't know that it was a separate taste.

I suppose that they didn't include any low carbohydrate WOE folks in
teir "fat eaters" -- just as they probably didn't correlate with total
calories consumed either or the other macronutrients.

Sigh!

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100310164011.htm
Science News

Discovery of 'Fat' Taste Could Hold the Key to Reducing Obesity

ScienceDaily (Mar. 10, 2010) — A newly discovered ability for people to
taste fat could hold the key to reducing obesity, Deakin University
health researchers believe.

Deakin researchers Dr Russell Keast and PhD student Jessica Stewart,
working with colleagues at the University of Adelaide, CSIRO, and Massey
University (New Zealand), have found that humans can detect a sixth
taste -- fat. They also found that people with a high sensitivity to the
taste of fat tended to eat less fatty foods and were less likely to be
overweight. The results of their research are published in the latest
issue of the British Journal of Nutrition.

"Our findings build on previous research in the United States that used
animal models to discover fat taste," Dr Keast said.

"We know that the human tongue can detect five tastes -- sweet, salt,
sour, bitter and umami (a taste for identifying protein rich foods).
Through our study we can conclude that humans have a sixth taste -- fat."

The research team developed a screening procedure to test the ability of
people to taste a range of fatty acids commonly found in foods.

They found that people have a taste threshold for fat and that these
thresholds vary from person to person; some people have a high
sensitivity to the taste while others do not.

"Interestingly, we also found that those with a high sensitivity to the
taste of fat consumed less fatty foods and had lower BMIs than those
with lower sensitivity," Dr Keast said.

"With fats being easily accessible and commonly consumed in diets today,
this suggests that our taste system may become desensitised to the taste
of fat over time, leaving some people more susceptible to overeating
fatty foods.

"We are now interested in understanding why some people are sensitive
and others are not, which we believe will lead to ways of helping people
lower their fat intakes and aide development of new low fat foods and
diets."


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Walter Bushell  
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 More options Mar 11, 4:07 pm
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet.low-carb
From: Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:07:10 -0500
Local: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 4:07 pm
Subject: Re: New Fat Bashing - "A Taste For Fat"
In article <hnbc5b$mo...@news.eternal-september.org>,

 pamela <bicycleguy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I suppose that they didn't include any low carbohydrate WOE folks in
> teir "fat eaters" -- just as they probably didn't correlate with total
> calories consumed either or the other macronutrients.

Outside the low carbers and a few other health nuts, everybody in the US
certainly is maintaining on sugar and the others are mostly glucose
addicts. Even some low carbers believe that whole grains are better than
the refined stuff. Beside the paradigm is carbs making up the bulk of
the diet.

People lie awake nights trying to figure new ways to get it into new
foods, that is if they can't put HFCS in them. HCFS is basically the
same as sugar anyway.

Many moons ago when I was into low fat dieting, I looked at a package of
brown rice for the nutritional content and saw it was mostly
carbohydrates even the amount of fiber was not impressive. "Must have
some other benefit", I thought. That was back in the day, I was being
told to cut my fat to 5% by calories. Brown rice has 7% and apples have
5%. Hard to do a diet of whole foods on that WOE.

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trader4@optonline.net  
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 More options Mar 12, 7:29 am
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet.low-carb
From: "trad...@optonline.net" <trad...@optonline.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:29:54 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Mar 12 2010 7:29 am
Subject: Re: New Fat Bashing - "A Taste For Fat"
On Mar 11, 5:07 pm, Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote:

I don't see how what they describe doing proves they discovered that
fat is a sixth taste sense.   From what's in that article, all they
proved was that different people have different taste sensitivity to
fatty acids.   It says nothing about it being a seperate and new taste
sensation that is different than the existing ones.   Suppose I gave
people small amounts of sulfur to taste.  Some can taste and react to
smaller amounts than others, demonstrating a differing sensitivity to
it.   Does that make sulfur another seventh taste?

As for people having varying degrees of sensitivity to different
tastes, that hardly comes as a surprise to me.


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