I guess I'm sort of intrigued by the fashion one. Do you think that hideous fashions are now behind the human race? Are the ones mentioned in The Doppleganger Gambit really worse than some we've perpetrated in the past? Think whalebone corsets and hoop skirts, knee-breeches and powdered wigs, those wide pants the kids were wearing, etc.
Brian
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>I guess I'm sort of intrigued by the fashion one. Do you think that >hideous fashions are now behind the human race? Are the ones mentioned >in The Doppleganger Gambit really worse than some we've perpetrated in >the past? Think whalebone corsets and hoop skirts, knee-breeches and >powdered wigs, those wide pants the kids were wearing, etc.
Think of what people are wearing *RIGHT NOW*. Think of Karl Lagerfeld.
Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djhe...@kithrup.com
>>I guess I'm sort of intrigued by the fashion one. Do you think that >>hideous fashions are now behind the human race? Are the ones mentioned >>in The Doppleganger Gambit really worse than some we've perpetrated in >>the past? Think whalebone corsets and hoop skirts, knee-breeches and >>powdered wigs, those wide pants the kids were wearing, etc.
> Think of what people are wearing *RIGHT NOW*. Think of Karl Lagerfeld.
> Dorothy J. Heydt > Vallejo, California > djhe...@kithrup.com
If you look at the range of clothing people have worn over the centuries, you soon come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as "too bizarre to be fashionable".
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>>> I guess I'm sort of intrigued by the fashion one. Do you think that >>> hideous fashions are now behind the human race? Are the ones >>> mentioned in The Doppleganger Gambit really worse than some we've >>> perpetrated in the past? Think whalebone corsets and hoop skirts, >>> knee-breeches and powdered wigs, those wide pants the kids were >>> wearing, etc.
>> Think of what people are wearing *RIGHT NOW*. Think of Karl >> Lagerfeld.
> If you look at the range of clothing people have worn over the > centuries, you soon come to the conclusion that there is no such > thing as "too bizarre to be fashionable".
One of the points of "fashion" is to prove just how much wealthier than everyone else you are. If that means making up some strange way of displaying a dozen different useless but very, very expensive items (like the left front paw fur of a male Kilosian frog) then by dagnabbit humans will do it!
-- "What Kind of perv rememembers the scenes where she's clothed???"
On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 17:37:30 -0700, "Dimensional Traveler"
<dtra...@sonic.net> wrote: >One of the points of "fashion" is to prove just how much wealthier than >everyone else you are. If that means making up some strange way of >displaying a dozen different useless but very, very expensive items (like >the left front paw fur of a male Kilosian frog) then by dagnabbit humans >will do it!
I'm not aware of any SF that predicted that clothes would become cheap enough that they didn't indicate class sufficiently to keep fashion as important as it once was. With owners of companies showing up in blue jeans, not dressed nearly as well as the receptionist.
>I guess I'm sort of intrigued by the fashion one. Do you think that >hideous fashions are now behind the human race? Are the ones mentioned >in The Doppleganger Gambit really worse than some we've perpetrated in >the past? Think whalebone corsets and hoop skirts, knee-breeches and >powdered wigs, those wide pants the kids were wearing, etc.
>>>I guess I'm sort of intrigued by the fashion one. Do you think that >>>hideous fashions are now behind the human race? Are the ones mentioned >>>in The Doppleganger Gambit really worse than some we've perpetrated in >>>the past? Think whalebone corsets and hoop skirts, knee-breeches and >>>powdered wigs, those wide pants the kids were wearing, etc.
>> Think of what people are wearing *RIGHT NOW*. Think of Karl Lagerfeld.
>> Dorothy J. Heydt >> Vallejo, California >> djhe...@kithrup.com
>If you look at the range of clothing people have worn over the centuries, >you soon come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as "too >bizarre to be fashionable".
Oh yes. Bizarre clothing we've always had with us. But never such *ugly* bizarre clothing in the present day.
If you have a strong stomach, in communication with your funnybone, I recommend a site called "Go Fug Yourself" (where "fugly" officially stands for "frightfully ugly," though there have been other interpretations).
Howard Brazee wrote: > On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 17:37:30 -0700, "Dimensional Traveler" > <dtra...@sonic.net> wrote:
>> One of the points of "fashion" is to prove just how much wealthier >> than everyone else you are. If that means making up some strange >> way of displaying a dozen different useless but very, very expensive >> items (like the left front paw fur of a male Kilosian frog) then by >> dagnabbit humans will do it!
> I'm not aware of any SF that predicted that clothes would become cheap > enough that they didn't indicate class sufficiently to keep fashion as > important as it once was. With owners of companies showing up in > blue jeans, not dressed nearly as well as the receptionist.
Have you noticed how expensive some jeans are these days?
-- "What Kind of perv rememembers the scenes where she's clothed???"
Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote: >I'm not aware of any SF that predicted that clothes would become cheap >enough that they didn't indicate class sufficiently to keep fashion as >important as it once was. With owners of companies showing up in >blue jeans, not dressed nearly as well as the receptionist.
Though I liked someone asking "where are the silver unisex jumpsuits?" and someone replied "we HAVE unisex outfits, it's called jeans and a T-shirt. It's like the future, only comfortable."
> >I guess I'm sort of intrigued by the fashion one. Do you think that > >hideous fashions are now behind the human race? Are the ones mentioned > >in The Doppleganger Gambit really worse than some we've perpetrated in > >the past? Think whalebone corsets and hoop skirts, knee-breeches and > >powdered wigs, those wide pants the kids were wearing, etc.
> No, I -liked- that part of TDG. Why should when I was a teen > have to be the worse point in fashion taste in western history?
The URL in that discussion pointed to too tiny a picture to be useful; I tried Google image search with no better luck, and finally went to Amazon to find a picture I could use.
OK, minidress with high boots for the woman; sweater with overalls for the man. Not great, but it suggests "futuristic" by looking funny. Surely SF has produced worse?
jdnic...@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote: > No, I -liked- that part of TDG. Why should when I was a teen > have to be the worse point in fashion taste in western history?
Because the Golden Age of Science Fiction had just ended! Obviously!