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gudi  
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 More options Sep 7, 3:56 am
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From: gudi <mathm...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 02:56:13 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Sep 7 2008 3:56 am
Subject: Andrew Wiles
Did Wiles (FLT) ever post in sci.math?

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Nicolas Richard  
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From: Nicolas Richard <theonewiththeevill...@yahoo.fr>
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:08:49 +0200
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Subject: Re: Andrew Wiles
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HallsofIvy  
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From: HallsofIvy <GeorgeI...@netzero.com>
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:08:42 EDT
Local: Sun, Sep 7 2008 5:08 am
Subject: Re: Andrew Wiles
No, he doesn't go "slumming"!

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Gib Bogle  
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From: Gib Bogle <g.bo...@auckland.no.spam.ac.nz>
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:15:41 +1200
Local: Sun, Sep 7 2008 9:15 pm
Subject: Re: Andrew Wiles

It seems that a brief glimpse of the denizens was enough for him.

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Marko Amnell  
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 More options Sep 8, 12:59 am
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From: Marko Amnell <marko_amn...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 23:59:35 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 8 2008 12:59 am
Subject: Re: Andrew Wiles
On 8 syys, 06:15, Gib Bogle <g.bo...@auckland.no.spam.ac.nz> wrote:

> Nicolas Richard wrote:
> > gudi a tapoté :
> >> Did Wiles (FLT) ever post in sci.math?

> > Google says he did.
> >http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=author%3Aandrew+author%3Awil...

> >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.math/msg/31cf65a01c83339e
> >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.math/msg/952853b8bc2f7080

> It seems that a brief glimpse of the denizens was enough for him.

On a somewhat related note, Andrew Wiles is the author
of the foreword to the new 6th edition of Hardy & Wright's
_An Introduction to the Theory of Numbers_ (2008). Wiles
says, e.g., that he acquired a copy of the fourth edition
(1960) of the book due to a suggestion by his high school
math teacher. He actually uses the words "high school"
which seems a bit odd as Wiles is English. Shouldn't he
have said "comprehensive school" or perhaps "public
school"? Where did he go to school? He also says that
the book "became a starting point for ventures into
the different branches of the subject" and that
"it was always there as a starting point which I could
return to whenever I was intrigued by a new piece of
theory, sometimes years later." Regarding Fermat's
Last Theorem, Wiles says: "Scouring the pages of
the text for clues about the Fermat problem (I was
already obsessed) I learned for the first time about
the real breadth of number theory." This is all fairly
interesting biographical information, as well as a
big personal recommendation for the textbook.

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Marko Amnell  
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 More options Sep 8, 1:16 am
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From: Marko Amnell <marko_amn...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 00:16:21 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 8 2008 1:16 am
Subject: Re: Andrew Wiles
On 8 syys, 09:59, Marko Amnell <marko_amn...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Answering my own question, according to Wikipedia:

"Andrew Wiles was born in Cambridge, England in 1953
and attended King's College School, Cambridge
(where his maths teacher, David Higginbottom first
introduced Fermat's Last Theorem to him) and
The Leys School, Cambridge; and earned his BA degree
in 1974 after study at Merton College, Oxford, and a
Ph.D. in 1980 after research at Clare College, Cambridge."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wiles

OK, is King's College School what is known in
Britain as a "high school"? This is not the
same meaning as "high school" in the U.S.
or Canada. I take it "high school" in Britain
is synonymous with "grammar school" which
the Collins English Dictionary defines as
"a state-maintained secondary school providing
an education with an academic bias for children
who are selected by the eleven-plus examination,
teachers' reports, or other means". So is
King's College School such a "high school"
for pupils aged 11-18?


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Tim Smith  
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 More options Sep 8, 2:49 am
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From: Tim Smith <reply_in_gr...@mouse-potato.com>
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 01:49:15 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 8 2008 2:49 am
Subject: Re: Andrew Wiles
In article
<dc26eb6e-40df-45fb-86af-a6f2b5cdd...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
 Marko Amnell <marko_amn...@hotmail.com> wrote:

The term "high school" is not used generically in England, but some
schools specifically call themselves "high schools":

   <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_school#England>

A more likely explanation, though, is that Wiles has been living in the
US since something like 1982, and so has picked up some proper English.
:-)

(The real test would be to see if he says "math" or "maths"...)

--
--Tim Smith


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Marko Amnell  
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 More options Sep 8, 3:31 am
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From: Marko Amnell <marko_amn...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 02:31:24 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 8 2008 3:31 am
Subject: Re: Andrew Wiles
On 8 syys, 11:49, Tim Smith <reply_in_gr...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

That was my impression too when I first read the
sentence, that Wiles had picked up American English.
It's in fact the very first sentence of the foreword.
This is what Wiles writes:

"I had the great good fortune to have a high school
mathematics teacher who had studied number theory.
At his suggestion I acquired a copy of the fourth
edition of Hardy and Wright's marvellous book
_An Introduction to the Theory of Numbers_."

If "high school" is not a generic term in England and,
according to Wikipedia, Wiles did not attend any
school that specifically calls itself a "high school"
then Wiles must indeed be using the words
"high school" in the American sense here.

> (The real test would be to see if he says "math" or "maths"...)

Alas, he only uses the word "mathematics" as he
writes in a formal style.

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Steven  
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 More options Sep 8, 5:20 am
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From: "Steven" <steven_...@telenet.be>
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:20:33 +0200
Local: Mon, Sep 8 2008 5:20 am
Subject: Re: Andrew Wiles

"Tim Smith" <reply_in_gr...@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message

news:reply_in_group-68ABEC.01491508092008@news.supernews.com...

> (The real test would be to see if he says "math" or "maths"...)

In Simon Singh's really excellent documentary "Fermat's Last Theorem" Wiles
usually says "mathematics", except once when he says "math".
He also says "zee squared" (rather than "zed").

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Steven  
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 More options Sep 8, 5:24 am
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From: "Steven" <steven_...@telenet.be>
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:24:40 +0200
Local: Mon, Sep 8 2008 5:24 am
Subject: Re: Andrew Wiles

"Nicolas Richard" <theonewiththeevill...@yahoo.fr> wrote in message

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> gudi a tapoté :
>> Did Wiles (FLT) ever post in sci.math?

> Google says he did.
> http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=author%3Aandrew+author%3Awil...

Does JSH have a brother named Archimedes Plutonium?

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Gib Bogle  
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 More options Sep 8, 2:29 pm
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From: Gib Bogle <bo...@ihug.too.much.spam.co.nz>
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 08:29:19 +1200
Local: Mon, Sep 8 2008 2:29 pm
Subject: Re: Andrew Wiles

Steven wrote:
> "Nicolas Richard" <theonewiththeevill...@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
> news:ga0cnu$t9g$1@aioe.org...
>> gudi a tapoté :
>>> Did Wiles (FLT) ever post in sci.math?
>> Google says he did.
>> http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=author%3Aandrew+author%3Awil...

> Does JSH have a brother named Archimedes Plutonium?

Probably the only crankish behaviour that JSH and Archie share is
antipathy for Wiles.  I guess they resent this imposter getting the
glory that they deserve.

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Mensanator  
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 More options Sep 8, 2:34 pm
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From: Mensanator <mensana...@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:34:41 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 8 2008 2:34 pm
Subject: Re: Andrew Wiles
On Sep 8, 3:29 pm, Gib Bogle <bo...@ihug.too.much.spam.co.nz> wrote:

> Steven wrote:
> > "Nicolas Richard" <theonewiththeevill...@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
> >news:ga0cnu$t9g$1@aioe.org...
> >> gudi a tapoté :
> >>> Did Wiles (FLT) ever post in sci.math?
> >> Google says he did.
> >>http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=author%3Aandrew+author%3Awil...

> > Does JSH have a brother named Archimedes Plutonium?

> Probably the only crankish behaviour that JSH and Archie share is
> antipathy for Wiles.  I guess they resent this imposter getting the
> glory that they deserve.

And the money and the chicks.

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